Yankees Talks with Rivera are Not Active 36

A lot has been made so far about the Yankees meeting with both Cliff Lee and Derek Jeter, but so far we haven’t heard a lot about Mariano Rivera.

Here was a bit from the NY Post today:

While the Yankees met with Jeter, talks with Mariano Rivera and his agent Fernando Cuza were described yesterday by a Yankees source as “not active.”

Rivera is going to be 41 at the end of the month, but there is both interest on his part and on the part of the Yankees to bring him back. He’s on the back-burner because of the importance of signing Lee and the intricacies of signing Jeter.

He’s probably going ot earn close to what he has made over the past three years, $15 million. The only thing he and the Yankees probably have to worry about is whether it is a one or two year deal. He might be in line for a small raise, but nothing sigficant.

I would like to see the Yankees reaching out to him every now and then to remind him of his importance to the team so that way he doesn’t take this all as an insult though. I doubt he would anyway.

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36 thoughts on “Yankees Talks with Rivera are Not Active

  • Bronx Knight

    I agree, couldn't hurt to let Mo know, "hey, we love you, just gotta get a couple things out of the way before we resign you." I would hate to see any repeat of the way we ignored Andy and drove him to Houston back in 2004.

  • Hardcore Yankee Fan

    I would agree with the sentiment of reaching out to Mo if for no other reason than to stay in touch. Having said that, I really would not want to sign him beyond more than a year.

  • Mindkind

    I agree with letting Rivera know. I really don't have a problem giving Mariano a 2 year deal. I know it's risky because of his age but this is Mo we are talking about. If the Yankees sign him to two years and he breaks down in the second year of the deal the Yankees still got the better deal. Why? because Mariano Rivera has been the greatest closer for a long time and if the Yankees only carry him injured one year then I say that's a pretty good deal. We are not talking about Javier Vazquez or Nick Johnson here remember that.

  • Russ

    There is a logical reason why delaying Mo's deal makes good business sense. If you know it's virtually a done deal, then it makes perfect sense to wait to sign him until after the Rule 5 draft. That way, you get an extra 40 man roster spot to protect another kid.

  • Rob Abruzzese Post author

    I have no problem with giving Mo a two year deal if Girardi would be willing to using him as a middle reliever in the second year. If he falls off a little bit he's still better than most middle relievers. Also, they have no clear replacement for him as closer.

  • Rob Abruzzese Post author

    You're probably right. Sorry. Back on.

    Personally, I do think that there isn't much more overrated in baseball than a closer. But I think that there are people that get all over them for a very few blown saves.

    You're blaming Rivera for losing in 2004 and 2001, but you don't give him credit when they win? It doesn't make much sense logically.

    In 2001, the Yankees were out played in almost every aspect. They were lucky to get to game seven. In reality if their field didn't have that cutout going from the plate to the mound, the Yankees win that World Series. Putting the blame on Rivera when there were about 50 other reasons they lost that series. Really the only thing they did right in that series is clutch hitting.

    In 2004 they lost because they had no pitching staff. You make so much about Rivera blowing a game, but if they had a proper and rested starter for games 5, 6, or 7 then they could have won that series easily. Before they even got to the ALCS their pitching staff forced Torre to abuse his relievers (and abuse them he did) so by the end of the season it's shocking that Rivera could even pitch.

    I don't like this argument because you are picking on Rivera for 2 games. I also don't like this argument because there were so many other contributing factors that went into losing that it seems stupid to single out Rivera. It's literally like blaming A-Rod for losing to Texas this year just because he was the last batter of the game.

  • Hardcore Yankee Fan

    First off, I am not picking on Rivera. I just think we need to take emotion out it and assess things as they happened and not our impression of what happened based on media and hype.

    If I'm not giving Rivera credit, it's because once again, the closer has such a minimal impact on a team's wins. But when they blow those saves…well, it's obvious what happened. Rivera has never had a significant defining series where there were several one run games to close out, at least as memory serves. The 2001 WS was the very special exception to that. He closed 3 one run games but he blew Game 7. Call it blaming him or whatever but I'm merely stating facts.

    Same with the 2004 ACLS. You and Mike seem to want to completely ignore the fact that he was given the lead in an elimination game and blew the lead yet again. Instead, focusing on what could have happened in Games 5, 6 and 7. I don't pin all of this on Rivera. But it's hard to ignore that he was in a situation where he could have FINISHED the SERIES with the ball in HIS hand and DIDN'T. Am I the ONLY Yankee fan who wants to deal with this reality and not bury my head in sand about him and only remember his successes?

    And if you want to divert to the fact that "there were so many other contributing factors", that just reinforces my original hypothesis that a closer isn't THAT important. Don't get me wrong. I'll say for about the fifth time that I'm a huge fan of Mo and consider him the best closer, hands down, of this era. But I for one refuse to believe in some notion of this invincible aura concerning him that all too many folks, even Yankee haters, seem to buy into. I've see way too many games to fall into that.

  • smurfy

    I read enough, Hardcore, you should be quiet: Mo is a work of art, unseen before by modern man. You are right that his War exposes the stat for not being able to recognize what did not happen because he was there, but then you stop making sense. [no need for that language] Mo is to be revered for what he does! Did you see him hop that broken bat, then field the ball?

  • JGDragov

    Different opinons are what makes internet blogs and chats fun and interesting no doubt.

    That being said how any Yankee fan(like Hardcore Yankee Fan said I think we all are)can think Mo isn't as important or as good a Yankee great of all time I truly can't comprehend. Is there any pitcher in the history of baseball that has carried a 0.71 ERA over the course of 140 consecutive innings? When you stop to consider that Mo has done exactly that during the postseason when the competition is at it's highest and everyone is watching, you can't argue against his contributions. Show me a pitcher, releiver or starter, that has pitched in 94 postseason games and come away with the loss just once. Once!

    The Goose, Rollie Fingers and the like aren't inferior to Mariano by any stretch. Their postseason accomplishments have been just as impressive in many ways as Mo's, sometimes more. Still, in the age of steroids, smaller ball parks and more media scrutiny than in the history of sports, if you think these guys could have secured the final out of 76 postseason victories, you don't understand how incredible Mariano truly is.

    Lastly, Mariano's postseason numbers are off the charts, and that's what seperates him from the rest. However, his regular season numbers are as good, and in most cases better, than any other releiver. A big reason the Yankees have sometimes cruised to their divisonal titles is that Mo was shutting teams down in May, June and July when the divison was still up for grabs.

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