Cashman: Joba Chamberlain Will Not Start

The Yankees have a hole in their rotation, but there are no decent starting pitchers available on the market that they are interested in. There is however a promising young pitcher in their bullpen with plenty of talented relievers on the market to replace him if they wanted to make him a starter.

I’m talking about Joba Chamberlain and unfortunately the Yankees are not interested.

Joba has been in the league since 2007 and is still at an age, 25, where most pitchers are just making their major league debuts. He’s not even three months older than one of their top prospects, Andrew Brackman, who may not pitch in the majors at all in 2011. Yet it seems like the Yankees GM has completely written off any possibility of a return to the rotation.

Joba, in his career as a starter has had ups and downs, but his overall numbers are far from bad. In 221.2 innings as a starter he has a 12-7 record, a 4.18 ERA, and a 8.4 K/9 rate. Those numbers are all better than what the Yankees got out of A.J. Burnett and Javier Vazquez last season who made $28 million combined last season.

So while the Yankees are looking for a replacement for Vazquez and have one in house that is both a better pitcher and would come at a fraction of the cost, they are not interested.

What is even more baffling is that in 2008 and 2009 the Yankees believed so much in Joba’s talents that they enforced draconian pitching rules on him to protect his arm. A few years later when he’s ready for a full 200 inning season they won’t even consider it?

That’s the way the Yankees are going though.

What do you think? Should Joba be considered for the rotation next year? Or should the Yankees keep him in the bullpen where he isn’t even being considered for the primary setupman role? Or maybe the Yankees should try to trade him…Let’s hear your opinion.

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14 Responses to Cashman: Joba Chamberlain Will Not Start

  1. Henry Ferraz says:

    I think that joba should have a chance at Spring training… Nova and Brackman should have thair chances too, and them the best of them could make it to the Starting rotation. I don't like the idea of Yankees going after Blanton, he doens't have 'convincing' numbers, neither does Garcia. The boys in the clubhouse should have their chances if they can not peform, during the season Cashman could make some moves via trade.

  2. smurfy says:

    In Joba's relief roles, he has the best means to prove he is ready for more length. All he has to do is consistently put them down, and the Yankees would be happy to extend his exposure. Something serious must have impaired his shoulder and his smoke, and if so, he has to learn effective new approaches.

  3. Dan says:

    They probably messed Joba up for life with the disastrous "Joba Rules" season. The way the Yanks have dealt with both Joba and Hughes is appalling. Joba was an awesome reliever; Hughes a promising starter. What did they do? Made Joba a starter and Hughes a reliever. Hughes performed well in the bullpen. What did they do? Made him a starter, moved Joba back to reliever.

    A lot of pitching has to do with confidence. If you're constantly wondering if your team believes in your stuff and in your ability to pitch, you won't have that confidence. IMO, the Yanks screwed Vazquez and A.J. that way as well. Both are good pitchers; neither got the right support (whether from a trainer or whatever) to get their stuff, their command, their confidence back to a point where they could actually perform.

    Joba and Hughes were supposed to hold up the rotation of the future. I say give them the jobs, treat them like real starters, and see where it takes you.

    • Confidence plays a part, but skills mean a lot too and these players should have some personal responsibility as well. Plus, 10 years ago nobody seemed to have a problem with going from the rotation to the pen back to the rotation. How come David Cone had a fine career? He went back and forth. So did lots of pitchers.

      While I don't think what the Yankees did was extremely helpful to Joba's development, I never bought into this idea that they messed him up. If he could have been messed up so easily I doubt he had the skills and emotional ability to make it in the first place.

  4. Eric Communiello says:

    After everything that's gone down with Joba, he's going to be a reliever for the rest of his tenure with the Yankees. I also think it'd be dumb to convert him back to a starter when the Yankees are so deep in the minors with quality starters. Give one of those guys (Brackman, Phelps, Noesi) a chance and leave Joba in the pen.

    • None of those starters are ready for the big leagues in 2011 and most of them probably won't be ready by 2012. The Yankees need a starter now. I don't see why "converting" him involves more than just stretching him out during spring training either.

  5. Craig says:

    I used to be among the biggest Joba supporters and argued rabidly for him to stay in the rotation. I don't really have the energy to go through all of that again, but I definitely think he needs to be considered for the rotation one more time – ESPECIALLY if Pettitte doesn't come back.

    If not, I would like to see him traded. I don't trust him relieving in big spots and I imagine that someone, eventually, will be willing to exchange a piece that will have some value to the Yankees.

  6. Ryan says:

    The Yanks should keep Joba in the pen. They cant keep messing with his head and having him prepare for a different role every offseason. Also, correct me if I am wrong, joba was having some shoulder issues a couple years ago and I wonder if it is because of the innings as a starter and that is why it took awhile for his velocity to return. They should use what they have in the system and if it doesnt work out, explore trade options. By June Oakland may be looking to deal a starter as they usually do, the Marlins may be willing to make a trade, even the Braves may be willing to deal one of their younger pitchers(Jair Jurgens) fingers crossed. Let the season play out and use the payroll flexibility in there favor for once during the season like they did in the mid '90s. What are your thoughts?

  7. Matt says:

    The Yanks need to look at Brandon Webb. Proven pitcher who would love to show he is back. This guy was unreal 2 years ago. Welome to NY WEBB, let's see what you have?

    • He might have been a good pitcher a few years ago, but as soon as somebody has shoulder surgery they become a huge question mark. This guy seems to be looking for a relatively big deal compared to the probability that he'll have a good season.

      When was the last time the Yankees, or any team really, passed on a guy with shoulder surgery and regretted it?

  8. The Yankees need of course good pitcher's to stay close to Boston, and the rest of other team's. But the bottom line is that they for the best two year's now have been babying Joba of course, men let this young guy be traded, so we could move forward with the rotation before spring training. Cashman, what hell is wrong with you men.

    This of course is not a Gossip or Rumors, Cashman, you must face what is going on men. This guy pitching is not what it used to be, and everyone know's that. I rather have two good starting pitchers, and trade Joba.

    You know what I think about you Cashman, that maybe someone is paying you under the table to keep Joba with the Yankee's. I beleive that's right. Come on tell us how much money are you getting. Yankee's will always be my team, but not you Cashman. You're a fool for keeping this guy.