Rumors: Yankees Willing to Give Pettitte a Raise to Comeback

Via Jon Heyman of Sports Illustrated:

Yankees willing to give Pettitte raise to $12-to-13 mil. What’s taking him so long? Does he want more $? Is he an MLB Favre?

The way you could read this is that the Yankees want Andy Pettitte back. They’re willing to give him a raise, but they don’t want to shoot themselves in the foot and tell Pettitte that they’re willing to give him $16 million if he’ll settle for $13 million. Realistically though, they’ll give him whatever he wants to come back. To me $16 to $18 million is not out of the question.

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41 Responses to Rumors: Yankees Willing to Give Pettitte a Raise to Comeback

  1. Franco Kotos says:

    this is not a championship year for the Yankees…they should not go overboard with Pettite…a lot of things would have to go right for the Yankees to get back to the World Series…the have a great core of pitchers coming up in 1 or 2 years and a few hitters who could become all stars…the next generation could be the best we've seen in a long long time…

  2. They were 2 wins away from the World Series last year. Why are they so far away now? It's nearly the same team. Was Javier Vazquez that important?

  3. Franco Kotos says:

    The Yankees got the Twins in the first round, a team that had been reeling almost as bad as the Yankees…they do not have the pitching to make it far in the playoffs and the lack of clutch hitting is a problem…when the 2010 team came out minus Melky, Damon and Matsui, they lost 3 of the best clutch hitters on the team…the Yankees now look more like the 2004-2008 Yankees, possibly worse…a lot of mixed up talent in transition…Boston is better positioned to take the East, the Yankees need to re-tool for the future and Pettite is not in the plans…maybe Jeter rebounds, maybe the new catcher works out…Ivan Nova could win 15 games, AJ could reverse his curse, Hughes might pitch like he did during the first 2.5 months but the Yankees have a lot of holes and Cashman does not want to spend $$$ for the 2011 season…the prospects are the Yankees future…

  4. So your argument is that Damon, Melky, and Matsui are the difference between winning a World Series and not even bothering to contend?

  5. Franco Kotos says:

    Damon, Melky and Matsui were big difference makers in 2009…there's no telling what the Yankees would have done in 2010 had they kept those 3 but imo, losing those men had a significant impact on the team and it changed the chemistry…what I am saying is that the Yankees are in transition, they have probably the best pitching prospects in baseball and are probably 2-3 years away from potentially having a dominant staff…if Montero converts to an outfield position and if Sanchez pans out, we may be looking at a core group of players that could conceivably dominate for 10 years…this 2011 team is an admixture…they should be able to compete and make the playoffs probably via a wild card berth but they do not have the horses to go the distance imo…if I'm wrong, come back and tell me so!

    • Mike S. says:

      Melky had a terrible 2010. Damon dropped off considerably in HR and RBI. So how would they have helped? Montero can't play the OF. I asked people in SWB about Montero possibly going to RF if needed. Too slow for OF.

    • al says:

      Melky Matsui nor Damon were pitchers. Pitching is what failed us in the post season. all three were flops in 2010, well, matsui was ok but that is it.

  6. Getting to the playoffs is the most important thing. What happens there is a crap shoot.

    It's funny to think that three bad defenders who had an .671 OPS, an .820 OPS, and a .756 OPS meant that much. If Pettitte returned they'd have the same rotation -a mediocre Joba and Chad Gaudin. The rotation isn't much different and the offense could potentially be just as good.

    Don't buy into this obscene idea that just because the Yankees missed out on Cliff Lee that they have no chance.

    • Hardcore Yankee Fan says:

      I don't agree that the playoffs are a crapshoot. The surest formula (though by no means guaranteed) is to have AT LEAST 2 top notch starters. Andy at 39, or even in his peak, was never considered in a class with Lincecum, or RJ, or Pedro, or Shilling, etc. And CC's career in the postseason is not exactly awe inspiring either.

      It's obviously even more of an issue considering the Red Sox do have a very impressive team on paper this year though not as good as I've seen hyped. Then you have the Phillies, in all likelihood to contend with. I agree that getting to the playoffs is priority number #1, but it's not a "crapshoot" or an equal 1/8 chance or anything close to that.

      • GINO says:

        Boston has had great teams on paper in years past and really do not have much to show for it! I can not understand why all you free agent wisher are writing off he Yankees this season!?!? An "all" star lineup does not always guaranty a world championship. "The Misfits" San Fran won. No way loaded with all stars. But they had great chemistry. Now a well oiled, young, and team with depth is more likely to succeed!

        • Hardcore Yankee Fan says:

          Whoa now, brother! Nobody is writing off anything. As long as there is a mathematical chance of them making the postseason, I'm all in. Heck, I'll gladly watch every game even if they eliminated in mid-summer.

          I don't think Boston has had this good of a team in a while though much of that is dependent on Lester and Buch continuing there thing. If Beckett and/or Lackey should regain their Ace form, it could get ugly.

          But as Rob has repeatedly mentioned, you just have to get there (postseason) and anything is possible, though their chances (in all candor) would be immensely (not just a little) better with an extra top notch starter (aside from Andy, which would be just huge icing on the cake).

  7. Franco Kotos says:

    Although anything can happen once the playoffs begin, the teams with dominant pitching staffs stand a better chance…the x factor here is the Boston Red Sox's…injuries kept the Sox's to 89 wins in 2010…the Red Sox's are in a good position to win the division…Cliff Lee would have been a short term answer at an enormous cost…if the rotation pitches like they did in the 2nd half of 2010, the Yankees won't come close to competing with the Sox's…Yankee fans are hoping on a change of fortune for AJ and Hughes who struggled in the 2nd half and keeping their fingers crossed that Nova can hold down the 5th spot…sometimes even Yankee fans need to take off their rose colored glasses…

    • I'm not talking about rose colored glasses. I'm just tired of people thinking the world is over because they didn't get Lee. You are making way to big a deal of things. Remember, the Phillies had a great pitching staff and the Giants, who were lucky to even be in the playoffs, beat them. Now they've added Lee, but the Giants beat Lee too.

      • Hardcore Yankee Fan says:

        The Giants have a great pitching staff, which is what beat the Phillies. And the games were very close overall, because the Phillies also have impressive pitching. The Yankees starting rotation is not anywhere near that level, even with Andy IMO.

        But no one, I'm sure, is giving up. We will all root like crazy till title #28 is in the bag or they get run out.

      • Franco Kotos says:

        Rob, i'm not making a big deal out of anything here…you're the one that threw in Cliff Lee's name…i'm glad the Yankees didn't sign Cliff Lee…he's not been as consistent as people believe and was over-priced in part because there was a thin stock of starters to choose from…the Yankees were looking to pay him for 7 years of service at something close to $22 mil a year…seems like a lot of money for a guy that's been great sometimes and average on other occasions including full seasons…his performance in World Series games has not been dominant even though he does know how to rev it up in the division and championship series…Cliff Lee is better than any of the Yankee's current consideration but truthfully, it gives the Yankees some financial flexibility at a time where the Yankees have been more conservative with spending…

    • Mike S. says:

      See my post on my blog. Remember the 1996 Yankees? Not the greatest of rotations:

      http://www.lvyankeefanclub.com/blogs/?p=2962

      To me, getting Pettitte back and signing Soriano to help form a killer BP is the way to go for 2010.

      Learn from the past. Learn from 1996.

      • Hardcore Yankee Fan says:

        But there wasn't a pitching staff like the Red Sox in 1996 nor a Phillies like staff waiting in the WS.

        • Mike S. says:

          Are you kidding me? In the 1996 Series the Yanks faced these starters: Smoltz (CYA 24-8, 2.94); Maddux (15-11, 2.72), Glavine (15-10, 2.98), and Neagle (2-3, 5.59 with Braves after 14-6, 3.05 with Pittsburgh for a combined 16-9, 3.50).

          Smoltz, Glavine and Maddux are three no-doubt Hall of Famers. They match up as well, or better, than what Boston or Philadelphia will toss out there this year.

          • Hardcore Yankee Fan says:

            I agree that the Braves pitching staff was very impressive and the HoF thing and all. But, for me anyway, they never seem to engender fear in anyone that they played. They had that group throughout the 90s and won one title, even though they went to the playoffs every year, if memory serves.

            While they were great pitchers, none of them really had a reputation for being "shut down" pitchers, as good as their stats were. That team could get you to the postseason every year but couldn't get over the hump but once in THAT many tries. A true dominating staff won't have that problem IMO.

            The thought of playing against RJ/Schilling or Pedro/Beckett (when he was on), or Halladay/Lee/Oswalt or Lincecum/Cain are prospects I find terrifying. Though the Giants offense would leave me some hope.

  8. Susan says:

    That's right. I am never against dumping an old player that is no longer productive. I wish they would do it more often.

  9. Susan says:

    I don’t miss Melky in the least. I liked Damon and Matsui but both were horrible outfielders. We can only have some many DHs.

    • Not only that but Damon was bad offensively last year and Matsui was only good for about half of the year. Their importance was big, but they were two of the oldest players on that team. Losing them was rough emotionally, but it was for the overall good of the team.

      • Franco Kotos says:

        is that a fair comparison?…i would imagine that if Damon and Matsui were signed for another year or two, they probably would have posted numbers closer to their 2009 performance with the Yankees than with their 2010 teams…we see this all the time…Damon and Matsui fit well into the Yankee lineup and were certainly helped offensively by the men around them…the Yankees got rid of Matsui and signed Johnson in his place…i would have rather of seen Matsui at the DH position…as far as Damon goes, his arm has always been weak but his offense benefited from batting behind Texeira and Jeter benefited from batting behind Damon…in my opinion, part of the reason why Jeter's average slipped was because the Yankees did not have a bonafide #2 hitter in the lineup…

  10. pugmac says:

    I am a life long yankee fan. I have been with them thick or thind. i say go with the kids they look like they will be super in a couple years. I hope Cashman does not trade for someone like Blanton. I think we will be ok this year not super on paper. However lets play and see what happens. Injurys are the key for any team. go yankees Mantle was the best

    • Hardcore Yankee Fan says:

      Agreed. Blanton isn't worth the effort unless you get him for very little. And yes, Mantle was the best.

  11. C.A.P.P says:

    Re-sign Pettitte, at reasonable cost, 10-15USM. Another good arm for pen & a bench outfield bat. Pressure will be on sox & phillies. My money is that CC, Andy, Hughes, Burnett and Nova plus the B's or Phelps (love that guy) will be the best rotation in baseball. Nothing like having the most succesfull franchise in US start a season with a very competitive roster and without the tag of favorite. These guys know how to win!

  12. Franco Kotos says:

    I don't want the Philadelphia Phillies cast-offs…Blanton is a meatball pitcher that's had some success in a weak NL division…he'd get clobbered in the AL East…

    • Hardcore Yankee Fan says:

      I think your analysis is spot on. It's just a question of would he potentially be better than Nova or Mitre. I'd rather have Blanton than Mitre but not Nova. Certainly Andy's decision would help my thinking on what one could do with Blanton.

  13. Franco Kotos says:

    don't forget about Adam Warren…he's an impressive pitcher with a fastball in the mid 90's…he will likely start out at Trenton due to the logjam in Scranton…

  14. Amanda says:

    So many people have annoited Boston because of their new players but if you compare their stats to the players they replaced Adrian / Adrian and Martinez / Crawford you will see an upgrade but a very little upgrade. The Yankees have consistancy from 2010 to 2011. Nick Johnson was a crap shoot that didn’t pan out. I like the move of Posada to DH. Keep him healthy and keep his bat strong and in the lineup. I predict a breakout year for Granderson and another good year from Cano.

    • Franco Kotos says:

      Boston's biggest advantage would be if they stayed healthy…i like your thoughts on Granderson…Kevin Long worked with him towards the later part of the season and his swing improved…

  15. Franco Kotos says:

    any thoughts on what the Yankees should do with Jesus Montero? keep developing him at AAA as a catcher, shift him to an outfield position at AAA, trade him for a starter mid year? I'm hoping he has enough athleticism to convert to a corner outfield position…he's got a rocket arm…

    • Mike S. says:

      I asked people in SWB (when I went up there last year) about Montero in LF/RF (whichever had less room to cover) and the answer I got was that he was too slow to cover OF ground.

      • Franco Kotos says:

        Montero looks like a DH waiting to happen…Edgar Martinez and David Ortiz have done well in their careers at DH…how about DH and back up catcher?

    • Preferably the Yankees will keep Montero behind the plate for at least the next 5 years. Maybe move him to 1st base when Teixeira leaves. From everything I've heard he doesn't have the tools to be an outfielder.