Mussina can’t choose between a Yankees or an O’s cap for the Hall

It’s been four seasons since Mike Mussina retired and pretty soon there is going to be a lot of talk about him getting into the Hall of Fame. It might not seem like it, but he’s got a pretty solid case too. When he was healthy there weren’t many pitchers better than him and considering the fact that he pitched through the entirety of the steroid-era that’s a pretty big accomplishment. When he won 20 games in 2008 he might have locked up a spot in Cooperstown.

The biggest decision could be which cap he wears on his plaque, an interlocking N-Y for the Yankees or black and orange for the Orioles. Which would Mussina prefer? He isn’t quite sure.

“I don’t think I get to choose,” Mussina told Roch Kubatko of MASN. “If I got to choose? That’s a tough question, because my career obviously is pretty evenly split between both places. You eliminate one and it changes everything about what I was able to do. I accomplished a lot of things here, I accomplished a lot of things in New York. I can’t stand here and say it’s one over the other.

“Baltimore people want me to say Baltimore, New York people want me to say New York. When I was here, I loved being here, and there’s nothing else I can say about it. This was the only place I had known for the first 10 years of my career and it was a great place to play and it was tough to leave when I had to go.”

Thanks for being nice to Yankees fans Mike, but in reality it doesn’t seem like he has much of a chance of going into the Hall of Fame as a Yankee.

I mean with the Yankees he wasn’t elected to one All-Star team, he never finished better than fifth in the Cy Young voting. His ERA+ was 114 compared to 130 with the Orioles. He did win 20 games with the Yankees, but he never won a World Series. Most Yankees fans probably don’t even realize how good his Hall of Fame credentials really are.

Meanwhile, he made five All-Star teams with the Orioles. He finished in the top five in Cy Young voting five times and finished sixth twice. That’s dominance over a 10 year period.

Take a look at the stats decide for yourself. Should Mussina go into the Hall as a Yankee or an Oriole.

Here are his numbers with the Orioles:

Year Tm W L ERA G CG SHO IP ERA+ WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB Awards
1991 BAL 4 5 2.87 12 2 0 87.2 139 1.118 7.9 0.7 2.2 5.3 2.48
1992 BAL 18 5 2.54 32 8 4 241.0 157 1.079 7.9 0.6 1.8 4.9 2.71 AS,CYA-4,MVP-21
1993 BAL 14 6 4.46 25 3 2 167.2 100 1.235 8.7 1.1 2.4 6.3 2.66 AS
1994 BAL 16 5 3.06 24 3 0 176.1 164 1.163 8.3 1.0 2.1 5.1 2.36 AS,CYA-4,MVP-20
1995 BAL 19 9 3.29 32 7 4 221.2 145 1.069 7.6 1.0 2.0 6.4 3.16 CYA-5
1996 BAL 19 11 4.81 36 4 1 243.1 103 1.368 9.8 1.1 2.6 7.5 2.96 CYA-5,GG
1997 BAL 15 8 3.20 33 4 1 224.2 137 1.117 7.9 1.1 2.2 8.7 4.04 AS,CYA-6,GG
1998 BAL 13 10 3.49 29 4 2 206.1 130 1.115 8.2 1.0 1.8 7.6 4.27 GG
1999 BAL 18 7 3.50 31 4 0 203.1 133 1.274 9.2 0.7 2.3 7.6 3.31 AS,CYA-2,GG
2000 BAL 11 15 3.79 34 6 1 237.2 125 1.187 8.9 1.1 1.7 8.0 4.57 CYA-6
W L ERA G CG SHO IP ERA+ WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB Awards
BAL (10 yrs) 147 81 3.53 288 45 15 2009.2 130 1.175 8.5 0.9 2.1 6.9 3.29
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 8/25/2012.

Here are his numbers with the Yankees:

Year Tm W L ERA G CG SHO IP ERA+ WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB Awards
2001 NYY 17 11 3.15 34 4 3 228.2 143 1.067 8.0 0.8 1.7 8.4 5.10 CYA-5,GG
2002 NYY 18 10 4.05 33 2 2 215.2 109 1.187 8.7 1.1 2.0 7.6 3.79
2003 NYY 17 8 3.40 31 2 1 214.2 130 1.081 8.0 0.9 1.7 8.2 4.88 GG
2004 NYY 12 9 4.59 27 1 0 164.2 98 1.324 9.7 1.2 2.2 7.2 3.30
2005 NYY 13 8 4.41 30 2 2 179.2 96 1.369 10.0 1.2 2.4 7.1 3.02
2006 NYY 15 7 3.51 32 1 0 197.1 129 1.110 8.4 1.0 1.6 7.8 4.91
2007 NYY 11 10 5.15 28 0 0 152.0 88 1.467 11.1 0.8 2.1 5.4 2.60
2008 NYY 20 9 3.37 34 0 0 200.1 131 1.223 9.6 0.8 1.4 6.7 4.84 CYA-6,MVP-19,GG
W L ERA G CG SHO IP ERA+ WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB Awards
NYY (8 yrs) 123 72 3.88 249 12 8 1553.0 114 1.212 9.1 1.0 1.8 7.4 4.02
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 8/25/2012.
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7 Responses to Mussina can’t choose between a Yankees or an O’s cap for the Hall

  1. Fred says:

    So players don't choose their cap anymore? If that's the case he'll certainly be in an O's cap

  2. jmw2323 says:

    better statistically than Tom Glavine

  3. Hardcore Yankee Fan says:

    I would love to see more Yankee hats enshrined but he should go in as an Oriole. And while I would love to see a much more stringent barometer for induction, Mussina does seem to easily deserve it based on where that line for induction is drawn today.

  4. MBN says:

    Would be a big thrill if he went in as a Yankee, but his career was better as a Bird. it's close though. One can make an argument either way.

    If he gets in, that is.

  5. Cheryl says:

    Definitely a Bird!!!