This year’s Shane Greene and Dellin Betances are in camp now

Last year the Yankees had a few rookies who came through in a big way for them. Yangervis Solarte played well enough to be paired with a minor leaguer to get the Yankees Chase Headley. Dellin Betances became a fixture in the late innings for the Yankees and a fantastic bridge to David Robertson. He was probably the best setup man in the league. Masahiro Tanaka was Masahiro Tanaka until the injury. Finally, Shane Greene emerged as one of the best rookie starting pitchers in the league. He managed to net the Yankees one of the top young shortstops in the league in a trade this offseason.

With Yangervis Solarte and Tanaka coming from outside the organization, that makes two home grown prospects who had a major impact last season for the Yankees as rookies.

It is a rare occurrence, especially for the Yankees, that two prospects break out in the same season. Oddly enough, the Yankees have two prospects in camp right now who have similar profiles to Greene and Betances. They could easily end up being this year’s breakout pitchers.

The first is Bryan Mitchell. Mitchell is a 6-foot-3 right handed starting pitcher. He throws a fastball which sits in the mid 90’s, a nasty curveball, and also throws a changeup and a cutter. He has the four pitch mix, and has been improving his control at every level for the past few years, culminating in a 3.5 BB/9 in Triple-A last year. He even got a call up for 11.0 innings and had a 2.75 ERA last year.

He is still working on fine tuning his control, and will likely be ready by mid-season to start for the big league team if the opportunity presents itself. With his stuff, if he can stay in control he could be a revelation for the Yankees, much like Greene last year. His stuff is actually better than Greene’s but he has not yet learned to refine it. Like Greene, he has flown almost completely under the radar up until now.

If Bryan Mitchell is this year’s Shane Greene, then Jose Ramirez is this year’s Dellin Betances-lite. Ramirez is known for his nasty fastball-changeup combo. His fastball gets as high as 98 mph and his changeup is devastating. He is also working on a slider that could round out his repertoire nicely if he can refine it. The guy’s stuff is electric, and if he can control it he might be this year’s version of Betances. No one can replicate what Betances did last year, especially as a rookie, but Ramirez could provide similar value.

The best part about the relief situation is that Ramirez isn’t the only guy who could fill the Betances role next year as the breakout reliever. Jacob Lindgren, Nick Rumbelow, or Chasen Shreve could all have a similar impact if given the chance.

The Yankees have been oft criticized for their lack of farm production in recent years, but that dynamic may be changing. With Greene, Betances, and now Mitchell and the group of relievers they have in Triple-A, the Yankees could prove to have one of the more productive farm systems in the past few seasons.

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37 Responses to This year’s Shane Greene and Dellin Betances are in camp now

  1. Terry says:

    Man,I really can't wait to see Mitchell pitch this spring.He's got a great future ahead of him.Monitoring the young pitchers is really exciting.I had forgotten about Ramirez though.Looking forward to seeing him also,love this time of year

  2. guest says:

    Mitchell throws a very heavy ball…there is no reason other then the mental side of things that will stop Mitchell from being successful if healthy.

  3. Balt Yank says:

    I think Mitchell is ready now and liked him last year. We can use a good rookie starting pitcher & have an overabundence of young relievers due to this off season's trades (got 3 good ones) and the farm combined.

  4. Celerino says:

    Are they looking at Ramirez as a starter or reliever? Was he hurt last year?

    • gcorcoran says:

      They have moved him to relief as of last year because of his health issues. Then he got hurt as a reliever last year. He's back and as good as ever now though and could be this year's Betances.

  5. Balt Yank says:

    I am becoming less sure why we traded Shane Greene for Didi? Of all the reports about Didi being a quality young shortstop, there are none mentioning him as a former top prospect. He hit 301 in triple A once with no SB and little power. Good D I guess. Great D? Time shall tell soon.

    • guest says:

      Didi did what he was supposed to do last year when in the PCL so I am bullish on him…he has 15 home run potential and last year was unlucky in the big leagues.

    • Celerino says:

      Didi ranked 80th on Baseball Americas top 100 prospects for 2013. He ranked 60th on's list that year.

    • Didi was the 80th best prospect in all of baseball. The Yankees had been trying to workout a trade for him for over a year. It wasn't until Shane Greene, who was never much of a prospect and never even top-10 prospect in the Yankees system. had a little bit of success that they were able to work out a deal. Part of the reason why I love the trade is because the Yankees sold high and the D-Backs sold low.

      Didi was a .290/.350/.450 hitter in AAA. If he could come even close to that in the majors and play excellent defense, he'll be a Yankee for the next 10 years.

  6. mick says:

    Didi is a major league shortstop. It'll be interesting to see what the Brass does with his swing. Hopefully, a little tinkering and fine tuning is all he needs. Imo, it looks like he has no start mechanism to his swing.

  7. hotdog says:

    You're all more optimistic on Gregorius than I am…good to hear, maybe you're right…i'd like to see him develop a little more power and hit to the gaps…

  8. mick says:

    hotdog…….I'm optimistic in the sense that he can field the position. He can pick it. As for his hitting, I'm just hopeful. I've only seen him a few times, but have looked at a couple of pieces of video my son showed me. He seems to turn to the ball, rather shifting toward the ball. Almost flat-footed. I'd like to see a bit of the Paul O'Neill swing applied to him. Otherwise, he's a slap hitter.

  9. Fred Stanley says:

    "He even got a call up for 11.0 innings and had a 2.75 ERA last year…"

    His ERA was 2.45…

  10. Les says:

    I sincerely enjoy hearing positive news on the future Yankees. Things look bright for the Yankees in 2017.

  11. mick says:

    If Jose Ramirez can harness the slider, to go with that 98 mph fastball and what is recognized as one of, if not the best changeups in the game, we have to get him into condition to be a starter. His fastball and change are devastating, and he's only one pitch away from being a big time pitcher. I've followed him for quite awhile now, and he's got great stuff. I agree with Les, the Yanks are much better than the naysayers want to admit. Good health will make this team fifteen games better than last season, and the pitching is better with Eovoldi adding depth. Here's to good health for the complete season.

    • hotdog says:

      our stand-ins did a nice job filling in for our starters on the DL last year…i felt that Cashman did a good job plugging holes…we just don't have the horses to be 15 games better than we were last year…that's not naysaying, it just is what it is, doesn't mean that the team won't improve but my hope is that those strides come from our minor league prospects who we'll need to get back on top…

      • gcorcoran says:

        I think 15 games better is a stretch but I do think this team is better than last year's team assuming they stay healthier than last season.

    • gcorcoran says:

      Mick, Jose just has not been able to stay healthy enough to be a starter. He never built his innings up enough for that. To make him a starter again wouldn't work IMO. He would get injured before his innings ever got where they needed to be.

      • mick says:

        greg…….I was under the impression that Cashman said after the 2013 season that the Yanks would get him healthy and return him to the starter role. Don't know if that's changed, but this kid's got talent. (and the injury bug) I don't know if he has the makeup to close, but with that fastball, and that changeup, it could work. Still, the way he throws, I hope he can get healthy and make it as a starter.

    • Nick says:

      The problem with Ramirez through his minors career is that he's is always hurt …. they call him Mr. Glass know what I mean ?

      • mick says:

        Nick, yeah he's been hurt a ton. But, he's a great talent. I've been following him for awhile now, as best I can. I like him a lot. I hope he can get healthy and start 30+ games at some point. It just isn't right for a guy to throw that hard, then toss that Bugs Bunny change at a hittler. If his slider starts to work with regularity, he's got a real chance. If not, he's a candidate as a closer with his two pitches.

        • gcorcoran says:

          Nick, I think the boat has completely sailed on J-Ram becoming a starter. Yankees management is intent on keeping him as a reliever now. He definitely has the stuff to become a starter but it just doesn't matter. Based on what Yankees' management has said there is no chance he becomes a starter again. If he is ever a starter it will be with another organization. Sorry to burst your bubble mick

          • mick says:

            greg…….you did. I did a little more research, and I guess the final decision was made after he was sent down last season, and again injured. And, he was a reliever then. If Ramirez can consistently throw strikes, he could very well stick as a closer. He throws about as hard as Betances, and could reach three digits if providing short duty. But, that change is a work of art.

          • gcorcoran says:

            Mick I couldn't agree more.

  12. mick says:

    hotdog…….losing 80% of our starting pitchers for extended periods of time? Tex, Beltran, Arod, mostly injured and MIA, Jeter hitting at a less then Jeterlike fashion…….McCann learning a completely new staff, not the offensive player we thought…….pal, I think there's fifteen games there. But, they have to be healthy. That's the caveat.

    • hotdog says:

      every team battles injuries and even though the Yankees had more than their fair share in 2014, the subs pulled together and did well…Tex, Beltran and Arod are way past their prime and Jeter was turning 40, you just can't expect those guys to produce anything like what they were doing in their prime…McCann had a good year, I can't find any fault in his game…losing 80% of our starters was rough but our pitching wasn't the problem, it was run production…the Yankees played well under the circumstances and won 84 games last year…how are they going to add 15 more wins, that's a 99 win season…they won't come anywhere close to that…a lot would have to go right for the Yankees to win 90 this year…and if they win 90, Girardi will get votes for manager of the year…what we can hope for is that Eovaldi develops better secondary pitches, Gregorius learns how to hit lefties, Refsnyder's defense improves enough and he makes it to the bigs, Tanaka defies predictions and wards off surgery, Nova returns to form, Pineda fills out a full season, Warren becomes successful as a starter, Betances becomes our ace closer and guys in the minors have good seasons…seeing these young guys makes strides will go a long way in determining whether or not 2015 is a successful season…

      • I like your list, Hotdog. Throw in a healthy season for Headley and Ellsbury, a sign that 2014 wasn't a fluke for Miller, and at least one of the group of Beltran, Teixeira, and A-Rod to defy expectations.

  13. mick says:

    I'm sorry hotdog, I'm an optimist. It's the coach in me. I think Beltran can still hit. I think Tex can hit. I wouldn't be surprised to see Tex go 25 HR and 100 RBI. If Beltran can hit third all season, produce as he did with the Cards, the Yanks will be in tall cotton. That allows Ellsbury to do his job in the leadoff spot. I like Arod for the two hole. McCann had a decent year, but his bat is much better than he showed. As Rob stated, Headley for the entire season. It's all about the injures, and if the health hold up, good for us. Tanaka missed what, ten starts last season? That's a conservative seven wins, right there. Can CC be CC? Pineda? I'm saying if the Yanks are healthy, and play to expectations, the Yanks could vie for the East. Many don't like this team, but I liked it last year. The best thing for the Yanks and for Refsnyder, is for Drew to hit .270, and play well at second.

    • gcorcoran says:

      Mick, I feel strongly that some of the things you mentioned above will go right. I also feel strongly that the Yankees are a better team than last year. The only caveat I would add is that the rest of the AL East got much, much better too. The Red Sox are scary this year and the Blue Jays have improved greatly. The Orioles didn't get better but they didn't lose much ground either. Additionally, while some of the things you mentioned above will inevitably go right, there will also be some things that don't go right. It's going to be an interesting season and IMO it could go either way. They could be a playoff team or they could be an 85 win team again this year.

      • mick says:

        I have a bet with my buddy, a Cards fan. $100, been going on for years. I got the Yanks 93-97 games. He took the under. I just don't think anyone can judge this team based on last season's stats. Read an interview with Beltran this morning. He says he is pain free. I think the key to success could lie with him. If Beltran can hit in the three hole season long, that let's Ellsbury go to the leadoff spot. If that lasts a whole season, and the pitching holds up, the Yanks could prove formidable. I like the rotation. Like I said, it's all dependent on health.

    • hotdog says:

      wasn't trying to pick on you mick, hope you know that…maybe it's just the pessimist in me…i'm working on it…

      • mick says:

        hotdog…….I didn't give it a second thought. After last season, playing the odds, the Yanks should be injury free this year. Right? What could go wrong? lol.

  14. Les says:

    Watching A-Rod trying to hit a fastball is sad. He is totally overmatched at this point in time. I also don't see Drew hitting anywhere over .250 if even that high. I would like to see Refsnyder start personally. Mitchell looked great against the Phillies. Capuano is a wasted signing. Bird is going to be fine as the eventual replacement for Teixeira. Even though I don't see them making the playoffs this year they will be entertaining to watch due to their young players.

    • gcorcoran says:

      Les, I am in agreement with you on A-Rod, Drew, and Capuano. That said, it is really, really early to be writing people off. I'm gonna withhold judgment until the start of the season.

    • kencobra7 says:

      I think if one looks at A-Rods mechanics so far this year, one may see a difference in his approach at the plate. He is smoother and less of a leg kick/lift. He is also, just trying to hit the ball, rather than HRs. One must remember, he hasn't faced Big League Pitchers in over a year. He is doing well (at a .500 BA) right now, he always had the talent to do what he did…without the drugs. The talent is there, can his hips and age let him show what an old man with Real to Great Talent can produce?
      The greatest years of the Yankees (Sorry, Not 1996-2009) they had a few younger players mixed in with the vets. I can see that happening as of this year and more so in the next year or two! Don't count A-Rod short guys! One can hate him or not, that is everyone's choice…me, I hate what he did, but he is a Yankee, so I will have his back!

      • mick says:

        ken…….l like that he's hitting the ball where it's pitched. Going the other way. I don't have to like him to recognize that he knows how to hit.

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